Transcript of Telephone Conversation between Charles Balis, M.D., Ms. Serena LNU, and Mr. Peter Hossfeld, Monday, March 24, 1997 at 10:15 am.

Ms. Serena: You are the one they call Balis?
Dr. Balis: Yes, that's my last name. And you are?
Ms. Serena: You may call me Serena.
Dr. Balis: Ah, yes. It's good to talk to you.
Ms. Serena: Yes. You have been talking to Peter, no?
Dr. Balis: As you probably know, I'm his therapist.
Ms. Serena: You were. But that is in the past now. Peter doesn't need you any more.
Dr. Balis: How so?
Ms. Serena: Peter has chosen a very high and difficult path; one that few have followed and many have missed. He needs all his power focused; he can't afford to be distracted by negativity at this point. He has told me of your disrespect for his beliefs, and I've certainly noticed how his concentration is destroyed after your times together. It took days to rebuild after each of those afternoons, and I haven't the strength or patience to keep repairing this damage any longer. We've decided not to squander our energies in this way, at this dangerous stage in his journey; so you can consider your little sessions at an end. Is that clear?
Dr. Balis: Do you think I could talk to Peter about this? Is he there?
Ms. Serena: Certainly--Peter! Tell the Doctor.
Mr. Hossfeld: Hi, Charles.
Dr. Balis: Hello, Peter. Serena just told me that you had--I assume jointly-- decided that you should drop out of therapy. Is this really what you want to do?
Mr. Hossfeld: I'm sorry, I have to. I really can't do both things; it pulls me too many different ways. I've got to do something about the terrible burdens I'm carrying from lifetime to lifetime--this is my one chance of release. And Serena's done so much for me I can't let her down, especially now we're finding out so much.
Dr. Balis: Are you sure this is the right decision for you? I thought we were starting to deal with some important issues in your life.
Mr. Hossfeld: I guess I'd have to say yes, I'm sure, okay? I mean, I liked talking with you, but it wasn't really important, you know, like the work I'm doing with Serena. I'm sorry, really I am, but there's nothing else I can do.
Dr. Balis: Are you sure you don't want to keep some outside perspective on all this?
Mr. Hossfeld: That's what's dragging on me, don't you see? I've got to commit myself all the way, holding back nothing, or it won't work at all. I need all my faith right now, or I'll fly apart.
Dr. Balis: Are you sure that's not what's happening?
Dr. Balis: Please. I'm trying to do what has to be done.
Dr. Balis: Well, if you change your mind, give me a call. I'll be there for you.
Mr. Hossfeld: Thanks, I appreciate that. See you.
Dr. Balis: Goodbye, Peter.
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